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12 Feb, 2008

Buyer Beware! Do not host with HostICan!

Posted by: Jennifer In: complaint department

Rather than clean up this post – which was updated throughout my ordeal with them – I wanted to summarize the problem I had when I was hosted with HostICan.

When I first switched to them, they seemed great at the time. I was very happy. I even signed up as an affiliate and recommended them, sent clients to them. A few months after I signed up however, the problems began…

At first I got a threatening email from them saying my site was using too much CPU/Memory. I could not get any kind of helpful response via email so I finally called them. The guy I spoke to said it was a momentary spike – everything was fine – lets see if it happens again.

A few weeks (?) later, it happened again. Again, I called and was told to install wp-cache and that should fix the problem. So I did.

I had a few more back and forths with them. The end result was that starting in 2008 I think they changed their monitoring systems, from a threatening email – to simply taking your whole site down.

My site has not had a massive increase in posts, or visitors in a few years. In fact, because I've been so busy, posting here has been less and less, and number of visitors has roughly averaged the same or less.

Simply put, I wasn't happy with their service anymore. In my previous post, people said "What do you expect when you pay ~$6 for hosting" (Actually I had paid more than that – but whatever). No matter what – if that's the service you get with cheap hosting – so be it. But what happened next is inexcusable.

On their site, they say that if you're not happy, you can get your money back… they ALSO say that if you are not happy within 30 days – you can get a full refund. Well, I'm not looking for a full refund, but since I paid for TWO YEARS up front, and the service obviously isn't working for me anymore – I would like to get a prorated refund. This is standard policy with every host provider I have ever contacted. On their site the "30 day RISK FREE money back guarantee" wording – is COMPLETELY SEPARATE from their "Service guarantee":

SERVICE GUARANTEE:
We guarantee that we'll provide quality service:

* 99.9% Uptime Guarantee
* 24/7/365 Phone & Email Support
* Your satisfaction or your money back. (emphasis mine)

When I canceled I asked for my prorated refund, and I was told I would get nothing because I was canceling outside the 30-day window. Their friendly response:
You seem to miss one vital thing "30 day money back guarantee" and this applies within the 30 days "Your satisfaction or your money back." not within 7 months.

They want to massively restrict CPU and take everyone's site down – I guess, sure, thats what you get with cheap hosting – but to put up a VERY misleading "SERVICE GUARANTEE" – and keep hundreds of dollars for hosting I'm obviously not getting/using… This is a good business practice??

Whatever the restriction is on CPU usage – it was so tight that I had A LOT of problems getting my database off their system… I would try to export the database, and it wouldn't let me… I had to manually export most of the rows for my posts and comments in small increments – and even then it skipped a few. It's also interesting to note that if you browse around on their forums, you'll see a bunch of people complaining of this problem.

People – be forewarned… This is not just cheap hosting… this is a BAD BUSINESS. I STRONGLY advise against hosting with them.

37 Responses to "Buyer Beware! Do not host with HostICan!"

1 | Tracey

February 13th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

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You need to contact BBB or something… Did you pay via PayPal or CC?? I'd even maybe file a complaint with them and try to get my money back that way since they didn't provide the services in which they said they would when you signed up…

2 | Jennifer

February 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

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I probably will file a complaint with BBB – and apparently I won't be alone:
http://richmond.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=85&bbb=0603&firm=21017360
If I had seen THAT before I signed up with them – NO WAY would I have signed up.

I paid with a credit card, and I am working with their dispute department. I have no idea how "powerful" that is – it sounds like they can get the money back – but if HostICan whines (which I'm sure they will) they have to give it back – and thus a back and forth ensues (?) I don't know. We'll see how it goes. At best, it will probably take months to ensure I get money back and keep it.

3 | Tracey

February 13th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

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These complaints were closed as:
1 No Response
2 Resolved
1 Unresolved

how the hell do you get a complaint closed with no responses and unresolved and still get to stay in business is my question… lol

not sure how much you're fighting to get back, but it almost looks like it'd be worth it to just cut your losses… but at the same time, i think it's time for someone to stand up and force them to either start doing better business or get out of business…

4 | RLvB

February 14th, 2008 at 1:02 am

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"BBB Accreditation was revoked on 9/19/2007"

Yet they still claim to have it:

"From the BBB (Better Business Bureau) to the CNET User Recommended award, HostICan has won most of them."
"Our excellent standing in the BBB can't be matched."

These lies are inexcusable.

5 | Clickfire

February 14th, 2008 at 10:19 am

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Hmm… interesting. I wonder what the actual cpu/memory usage limit was.

6 | Jennifer

February 14th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

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I'm pretty sure I asked this question – and was told "10%" – but I guess that's the beauty in this whole "CPU/Memory usage" restrictions with these cheap host providers… what is 10%? And within what time frame? It's not something concrete like "x#MB of bandwidth" or "x#GB of disk space" – it may be great to say that all this is unlimited – but somewhere you have to make a cut. Since disk space and bandwidth are getting cheaper and cheaper – the cut seems to come at the CPU/Memory usage. And the greatest thing for guys like HostICan – is it's not quantitative. 10% at one host may be completely different from 10% at another. And of course, you probably won't find that out until well after the "30 day" window. And by then – with HostIcan anyway, you're trapped or you've lost your money.

That's why I think getting the word out is so important. The personal experience of others at a hosting company will really play an important role for me moving forward and I will be less likely to host with anyone unless I know someone else who is on the server and is happy.

7 | Tracey

February 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

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Ok, I just emailed them…

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Good evening,

On your "Our Awards" page, it states the following:

"HostICan has been recognized by many industry review organizations as well as consumer watch dogs. From the BBB (Better Business Bureau) to the CNET User Recommended award, HostICan has won most of them."

However, on the BBB website, it states the following:

" Reliability Report for
HostICan

BBB Accreditation was revoked on 9/19/2007

BBB Rating Unsatisfactory"

Could you please shed some light on this and make me feel more comfortable with wanting to host with you?

Thanks,
Tracey
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I'll keep you all posted…

8 | Tracey

February 14th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

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Here was the fist reply:

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Tracey,

Thank you for contacting HostICan Sales.

The BBB is a great oganization, what can I say. However, their practiese are somewhat unworldly
as they keep insisting their rules, that they make you pay a membership for, that are somewhat
one sided, both organizations mutally parted, unlike it says on their site.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Best Regards,

Ted Davis
HostICan Sales

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9 | Tracey

February 14th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

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About 10 minutes after the one above…

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Dear Tracey,

Thank you for contacting HostICan Sales.

We do appreciate your interest in HostICan. Your inquiry was submitted to our sales department, and one of our sales associates will be in contact shortly.

For future reference, this will be your Sales Inquiry ID: PMP-756332

Please let us know if you have any further questions. We will be in contact shortly.

Best Regards,

HostICan Sales
HostICan Web Hosting
(Intl) +1 (804) 412-0390
(F) (804) 550-3339

10 | Jennifer

February 14th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

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Hmm… conveniently no mention of the "unresolved disputes" listed on BBB. How nice.

11 | RLvB

February 14th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

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@Clickfire:
> Hmm… interesting. I wonder what the actual cpu/memory usage limit was.

I was shut down when the logs said I was using only 1.8%. I guess the real limit was 1% or 1.5% or something.

12 | Tracey

February 15th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

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hrrm, well coming up on 24 hours and haven't heard anything since my last reply… funny stuff.

13 | Jennifer

February 15th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

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Don't expect to hear from them. They have their head in the sand (or up their asses – take your pick) – and feel they can do no wrong – everyone else is to blame for their server problems. As well, any responses I've seen from HostICan completely ignore the fact that their site has that misleading text about their so called "Service Guarantee" refund policy. So convenient.

Look at their responses here:
http://www.clickfire.com/hostican-review/

14 | AjnabiZ

February 15th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

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Hello Jenifer,

I would suggest that you move to another host right away. you should not spend any time with your present host if they are giving you trouble.

I have been with ICDSoft for 5 years and they support has been incredible.

Search for ICDSoft and you will know

15 | Jennifer

February 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

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Definitely. I've already moved off HostICan – but still in progress fighting them to get my money back.

I'm hesitant to recommend ANY host after the ordeal I went through with HostICan and their false refund policy – but I moved to BlueHost at the recommendation of a friend who also uses them, and so far so good.

I should point out that BlueHost also has some restrictions on CPU usage just like most host – especially shared hosts do – and the do monitor the usage – I even called them to confirm that everything on my site was fine – and they said it was. No idea what HostICan's problem is.

16 | RLvB

February 16th, 2008 at 12:07 am

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> No idea what HostICan's problem is.

From what I can tell, this new monitoring software they installed in early January is faulty or misconfigured, taking down people's sites when their usage is at only 1.8% rather than the 25% stated in the TOS.

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February 20th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

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18 | AjnabiZ

February 25th, 2008 at 4:26 am

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Hello Jennifer,

Bluehost has some negative feedback. You can check this forum for any companies's reputation

http://www.webhostingtalk.com

Its one of the biggest hosting forums.

I would suggest you also look into ICDSoft, its Support is by far the best. They answer within minutes. I have 3 sites with them and I have been using them since March 2003. :)

19 | Worst ever

February 25th, 2008 at 6:26 am

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HOSTICAN, is the worst company ever. Unreplied answers, shutdown server, access denied, bad support (?) staff, etc, etc, etc. DO NOT WASTE your money. All your comments, are absolute true.

20 | Jennifer

February 25th, 2008 at 8:44 am

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@Anjabiz – yeah, I know Bluehost has gotten some bad reviews. As I said, a friend of mine has used them for a long time and had been happy and recommended them. Before I signed up with them – the bad reviews I had read were from some time ago – and my friend said they had cleaned up their act. I figured I'd give them a shot. BLUEHOST at least does give prorated refunds (I DOUBLE and TRIPLE checked this time!) so I figured worst came to worst, I'd just move again. It couldn't possibly be as bad as HostICan was!! But you will notice that I'm not signing up as an affiliate and I'm not all out recommending them to other people. I don't think I'll EVER do that again!

21 | jeffld

March 9th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

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Sorry to hear about the problems that you have experienced with your web host. I've never heard of HostIcan, but after reading this, I'll stay far away.

I use Liquidweb and I have has been very pleased, I just celebrated my one year aniversary with Liquidweb this month.

Another host that I would stay away from is godaddy. godaddy likes to nickel and dime you to death for every service that should be included. I had access to a godaddy account via one of my clients/customers. I cannot imagine having a web host without shell access.

23 | Jennifer

April 14th, 2008 at 8:09 am

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Just an update on this…
I have finally received my money back – but with no thanks to HostICan. My credit card company gave it to me. We had a bit of a back and forth with HostICan. Basically it starts out with me sending in my request for a dispute over the charge. I included the basics of my complaint and then HostICan can submit a "defense". And then I get another chance at a "rebuttal".

Their best defense was claiming that I was an "abuser of resources" and then they printed out my website post and claimed it as "slander" (??!! LOL! Guys – look up the definition of slander. When it's TRUE it's NOT slander.

My rebuttal included a letter from Bluehost explaining they DO in fact monitor resources on my server and I have not been abuser of resources. And then I printed out the VERY MANY websites where people are complaining of these problems with HostICan. It's funny too because on almost all of them – you'll find people who work for HostICan whining about how mean everyone is being to them – and how this is somehow proof that we're all just "out to get them" (?). Maybe if they had these people working on the SERVERS instead of going around to websites trying to do "damage control" for crappy servers and/or monitoring systems – we wouldn't be having this conversation. Point blank – HostICan has a defective product which they try to cover up and not have to take a hit in their pockets with by disguising their (non-existent) refund policy.

And for all the complaints about Bluehost – I'm sure there are people that have had problems with them. And even maybe at some point down the road I will too… however, the main issue here is that when their service starts to become unsatisfactory – I know I can leave and get my money back without having to go through a four month battle. I'm certainly not defending Bluehost – after my experience with HostICan, I will NEVER recommend a host provider to ANYONE – but at least I know I won't get screwed like I did with HostICan.

(Oh also – I filed a complaint against them with the Better Business Bureau – but HostICan must have ignored them. So the BBB has closed it and labeled it "closed – unresolved". So they're completely useless. This is probably why the BBB has them listed with an "unsatisfactory" rating – and revoked their membership – despite HostICan saying that it's like that because they didn't want to pay a membership fee or some such nonsense.)

24 | RLvB

April 14th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

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Wow, sorry to hear it took so long to get your money back!
They gave it to me the moment I asked for it. They seemed glad to be rid of me, actually.

25 | David

April 23rd, 2008 at 7:45 am

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I had some of the same stuff happen with them. I have a small blog and I started getting the messages about exceeding bandwidth. I think they are trying to sell you a bigger package. So I finally walked away. I didn't argue about the money. I was just glad to get away from them.
I went to HostGator. And it is such a difference. It's amazing.

26 | paul strauss

May 17th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

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I've been a hostican customer for about 2 years now, and in the beginning, they were great. I think they're having some serious problems of late. They no longer offer real 24×7 support, don't answer the phones, and keep getting hit by DDOS attacks (or so they tell me when I ask them why my VPS server goes down.)

My web hosting is critical to my income, and I think I'm about done with them. I pay quite a bit to have a VPS account, and I expect better. I'll be checking into Media Temple, I think.

27 | Christine

May 22nd, 2008 at 12:42 pm

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Curious – how is BlueHost doing now? I'm not planning to move, but I have a friend that is looking for hosting and I like to get referrals from people that I know and trust — YOU! :)

(Feel free to email me if you prefer.)

28 | Jennifer

May 22nd, 2008 at 12:52 pm

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I'll email you too – but wanted to post here as well – Bluehost has been fine for me. My site isn't that big and *really does not* take up that many resources – so it's been a complete non-issue. I don't have to think about it at all. I know some people have had trouble with them. I haven't. But if for some reason, at some point I do, at least I know I can bail anytime and get a prorated refund. 😛 For now, I'd say I'm totally happy with Bluehost.

29 | Erik Teichmann Design » Hosting

June 6th, 2008 at 5:33 am

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30 | Roger

July 12th, 2008 at 9:28 am

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Hmm,

I'm looking into getting a VPS from these guys – they look to have a good deal ATM with loads of disk space (which is my main concern) but I'm going to do a bit more shopping around now that I've read all this!

I have to say though, I'm surprised you assumed you could get a pro rated refund when they clearly mention 30 days – I would assume the opposite and check with them first, especially before signing a 2 year contract! When you sign a contract you agree to be bound by it's terms for the specified length of time, your only redress being to sue them if they have breached the contract themselves.

TBH I'm not sure if I'd ever sign such a long contract with a webhost again. Paying monthly might cost more but if things go wrong and you need to jump ship you avoid problems like this!

Can anyone else here recommend a VPS with lots of HD space (CPU/Memory not so much the issue). I'm finding it hard to seperate the real reviews from the shill reviews! Grr.

Roger :-)

31 | Jennifer

July 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am

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@roger – the issue is that it wasn't clear to me. The wording is misleading on purpose. Every host I've been with, or had seen had ALL ALWAYS offered a pro-rated refund. It seemed to me to be standard practice. As well, the point would be moot if it weren't for the fact that it really does seem as if they have/had faulty servers. I've now been on Bluehost longer than I was on HostICan and I've NEVER had a SINGLE problem like I was having on HostICan. So to be clear, the issue with HostICan is a) Faulty servers or monitoring systems, b) HORRIBLE customer support, c) Misleading advertising. (and d) I'm not alone in having issues with them. They have an "unsatisfactory" rating with the BBB for a good reason!!) My credit card company agreed with me and gave me my refund.

HostICan is working very hard to hide their problems. They remove threads from the forums that clearly illustrate what their problem is. They spend a lot of time in comments on blogs and forums defending their bad service. That is the point of this article. To warn other people who are doing research. So – good for you for being able to find this before you got into a mess.

As for recommendation, while I kind of hesitate to ever do that again, I have a number of clients now on Media Temple, and with only one specific customer service rep, their support has been superb. But yes, they are more expensive. Surely you know too: you get what you pay for.

32 | Roger

July 14th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

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Ahh if only we got what we paid for eh? Sadly there's services out there that are both pricey AND rubbish! :/

Thanks for the tip re: Media Temple, they have a decent choice of storage options although as you say, it's fairly pricey. I think it's sad no-one seems to be offering a better range of options on their VPS packages. You might have thought as they're selling 'virtual' machines someone somewhere could get an edge offering machines to suit different projects priorities i.e. more disk and less memory or vice versa. Oh well!

I know what you mean about recommending people too, my clients are always asking who does the best value laptops / broadband and I have to explain to them that all laptop makers make both dogs & peaches and all broadband providers are flaky and unrepentent from time to time. Every now and then you'll come across a brand that seem reliable or great value but it's scary how fast some companies can go off the boil. The only consistently excellent IT brand I can think of in the last ten years has been IBM's (and now Lenovo's) Thinkpad, and for the price you pay for them they ought to be nothing short of amazing!

33 | Forest Marie

March 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

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Should be called HostICant!

Heard many horror stories about this place …

34 | victor

May 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm

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On May 9, I signed up for service with Justhost.Com.

On my first day with Justhost, I started to learn that most of the statements on their site are false. Please look at this link on their site http://www.justhost.com/guarantees. Within that link, they claim, "We guarantee that you will be able to reach us and speak with a real human being, someone who speaks English and can answer your questions, fix your problems and help you resolve your issues." This is a FRAUD. All members of their support team I have talked to do not speak good English and cannot help you resolve any issue. They are only there to advise you to send an email, which is usually answered about 6 hours later.

The money back guarantee is a fraud. For cancellation, you have to send them an email, which is not answered days after of your request. I have not yet received my refund or a cancellation confirmation email.

The accredited with Better Business Bureau is new as of 03/23/2009 and I assume their intention for joining was another fraud for new members to trust their site. There are already 10 similar reports of refund FRAUD.

On May 14, my account was suspended and I was asked to sign up for a dedicated server because I have exceeded the 10% usage. I contacted them on the phone to advise them that I was not planning to upgrade and need to remove my files. I was told that I needed to send an email.

I immediately sent them an email and they never replied. Six hours later, I sent them another email to ask for my files so I can cancel my account. No reply. On day two, I sent another email no reply. So far, I have sent them over 8 email with no reply.

Justhost.com is a FRAUD. They get you to sign up, suspend your account, and then force you to upgrade to a dedicated server. Their claim of me exceeding the 10% CPU is false because from my cpanel, I have never exceeded 7% and my site does not have the much traffic.

As of today, they have not confirmed my cancellation request or allowed me to get my files. I think this company is operated outside of the USA but is a reseller of another company like ThePlanet.

Please stay away from this company.

35 | Rob

July 24th, 2009 at 4:37 am

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I'm also a victim of the so called web hosting company Hostican.

Much like yourself I signed up to host a community gaming site, Bought a large $99 / month VPS host that boasted unlimited bandwidth just to make sure we'd have no issues, after a month all was going well and we decided to pay up 3 months in advance (thank god we didn't have enough for a year in advance).

As of this point our service went to hell… They took us offline due to a small DDOS a few times for as many as 4 days at a time, no notice was given to us about this and it took us dozens of calls to their supposed 24/7 support line to get so much as an answered call, that said we stayed patient and worked on the issue as best as we could with them, after a while we got fed up of the consistent downtime and opted to go with their suggestion of moving to another host so long as they would refund us what was left of our hosting (about $180 USD), They said to simply put in a cancellation form and we'd have our money back within 2 weeks.

So two weeks on, we'd long moved on but not so much as an email saying our request was being processed, Since then I've once again tried to contact them via email, phone, etc and only ever been answered once, the guy had no answers to my questions and was pretty much along the lines of "oh ok, well that's the billing departments issue and they're not in so bye".

Not only am I being stonewalled and being given no response at all, they've deleted my account from everything to do with them, So I can't login to their forums to ask about the issue or into my account to see if there's some sort of status update, basically it appears they've taken my money and run and just expect to be able to keep it…

I'm now at a point of complete frustration with trying to contact these people and somewhat at a loss as for what to do, if anyone has any advice on where I should go to from here please email me – pegasus_leader@hotmail.com.

On top of the above I've noticed that all their supposed testimonials that float around are the biggest load of shit I've ever seen, every single one appears to be as scripted as hell and they will delete any and all complaints from their forums on sight.

All in all DO NOT EVER SIGN UP WITH HOSTICAN, EVER, EVER, EVER. I'd be happy to link you to a much more reliable host that we've since found.

36 | Jennifer

April 1st, 2010 at 7:35 am

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Just a note: A few people left comments here talking about how great Host I Can is – I was almost willing to believe that maybe they got their act together – but the thing about HostICan that is so funny is that they send people out onto blogs to try and cover up for the fact that they suck so much. So to verify if these people who were raving about HostICan really existed – I tried to email them back – but surprise surprise – all the email addresses that were used in the comment form were bogus.

If you want to tell me a good experience you had with Host I Can, I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that a company even as messed up and with crappy service like them can improve – but if you want your comment to have any value – use a REAL email address that I can verify and include a link to this wonderful website that is supposedly hosted on their site without any issues. I'd LOVE to monitor it for a while to see how often you go down.

Otherwise, expect bogus comments to be deleted.

37 | Jennifer

April 7th, 2010 at 7:26 am

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Actually – I'm done with Host I Can spamming me. (You'd think most host providers would be helping fight against spammers – not contributing to the world of spam… More proof to what kind of company they are, I guess.) I think I've made my point about the lack of customer service they provide and their crappy servers. There really isn't a need to "discuss" this anymore. Comments are now closed.

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