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18 Jan, 2008

HostICan (also known as HostISuck, HostICant, and a plethora of other nicknames)…

Posted by: Jennifer In: complaint department

UPDATE: If you're reading this then you're reading me from the new host. Crossing fingers this works out better. (I could cleary see there was something wrong with HostIcan just in trying to do the move. For starters it took my site down just taking a backup of my site. As well it would not let me pull down a full backup of my database, and just reviewing the database to double check which lines it had decided to skip when trying to run the download, took the site down (meanwhile the new host had no problems with that). I have noticed a few "timeouts" – hopefully that's something that will work itself out. /sigh

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I am SO SORRY. To anyone who followed my advice and signed up with HostICan – I'm sorry. I'm SO SORRY. A million times over. As well, I am SO SORRY that I am hosted with them. If nothing else it was a huge learning experience on what to check on with a host provider.

When I first switched to them I thought they were great. I loved them. Well… the honeymoon is DEFINITELY over!!

You may have noticed that sometimes when you come to my site a "warning" of sorts is up that says I'm using too much "CPU/Memory" on their servers. NEVER. NOT ONCE on any host did I over use too much CPU/Memory – certainly not on a regular day to day basis. And anytime I might have had a script that I was running, the host helped me pinpoint which script was causing the problem. (I'm haven't put anything new like that on my sites for a long time). (This didn't even happen the time that my site got slashdotted.)

Despite saying this on their website:

SERVICE GUARANTEE:
We guarantee that we'll provide quality service:

* 99.9% Uptime Guarantee
* 24/7/365 Phone & Email Support
* Your satisfaction or your money back. (emphasis mine)

(Which, by the way, is NOT under the heading "30-day money back guarantee") they still say they will not give me a refund / pro-rated or otherwise. (I paid for two-years up front when I signed up with them – and did so thinking that I would be able to get a refund (LIKE THEIR SITE SAYS) should things not work out.) So now I'll be calling my credit card company to dispute the charge – and hopefully switch to a new host as soon as possible.

Ugh.

This by the way is the letter I'm sending my credit card company:

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to dispute a charge by HostICan on June 20, 2007 in the amount of $262.80. I had purchased hosting from them and paid for two years up front with the understanding that if I was not satisfied at any time with the service I would be able to receive a prorated refund.

The websites I have hosted with HostICan have been in service for 5+ years. I have been with a number of different host providers, and never had any trouble with CPU or Memory usage. Shortly after signing up with HostICan I noticed my sites would go down and in its place a “warning” message would come up saying that I was using too much CPU and/or memory resources on their servers. I contacted them and tried to understand why this was happening. They first suggested I wait and see if it happens again. It did. I contacted them again, and they suggested I use a specific plugin for my content management system that should help. I installed it. But nothing changed. I still saw my site going down.

They now say that I’ve "outgrown" the server I'm on and suggested I move to their more expensive plan which costs 5x more a month than what I'm paying now. My site hasn't gotten significantly larger since when I first signed up with them, so I feel that this is not a fair assessment. I asked them to tell me the hardware configuration of the server I’m on, and I got two different answers. I asked them to verify/prove which answer was correct, and they could not.

When I asked about getting a prorated refund because I was not satisfied – I was told I would not get one because I was outside the 30-day guarantee. However, on their site, they specifically say that satisfaction is guaranteed. (Please see printout from their website included with this fax). The phrase "Your satisfaction or your money back" is listed before any mention of their "30-day money back guarantee". If this is truly the case that you do not get a prorated refund – then I think their site is incredibly misleading. I took it to mean that if one cancelled within 30 days – all money would be refunded, and after that time, it would be a prorated refund, as is standard practice with other hosts I’ve contacted and hosted with.

As well, on their customer forums, it would seem that many other people are having a similar problem as I am. This leads me to believe there is a defect with either their servers or monitoring system. Instead of investigating the issue, they are belligerent and blame their customers.

Sincerely,….

I thought it would be interesting to mention that I've been having trouble posting this even because my site has been going up and down like a yo-yo.

22 Responses to "HostICan (also known as HostISuck, HostICant, and a plethora of other nicknames)…"

1 | Tom

January 18th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

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I'm sorry that you had a bad experience at your host. Feel free to check out our offerings. I can offer you a 10% coupon off your order should you choose to sign up with us!

2 | valerie

January 18th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

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Good luck and thanks for the warning against them!

3 | vhxn.com

January 18th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

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HostIcan it's really waste of time , Beware of this Hosting , they offer lots of features its a trap dont ever try this hosting.
HostIcan full of errors in their program.
HostIcan simply waste of time with your crappy server.

4 | jen

January 20th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

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I too an with Hostisucks and have had temporary suspensions due to CPU overload. I hadn't had any of this until just recently and I by NO means get that much traffic on my 2 blogs and my sites are pretty clean of plugins and scripts and I don't run any forums. I've emailed their support and their support is rubbish and they keep closing forums related to CPU overload. So I haven't had any joy there either. I'm staying there for the moment and will see how I go. Good luck with you too.

5 | Christine

January 21st, 2008 at 9:29 pm

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I do know at one point in time – when we were both using MT – HostingMatters said that we would max out their servers. At one point, they moved me to a different box so you & I wouldn't both be bogging them down! (haha!) But at least they never shut a site down, and when dealing with a site being slashdotted or similar slamming issues, they kept things up and running.

I guess this is the biggest reason why I'm still there. I expect every hosting company to have some issues – at least they have never really let me down.

I hope your new host works out well and you're back to a nice quiet virtual home!

6 | Jennifer

January 21st, 2008 at 9:37 pm

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You know, though, it's more than just a site with a lot of traffic. I think they must have super high restrictions on CPU/Memory usage. A client I had referred there, he runs squirrelcart – sells just one product. And that is ALL that's on his site. It's about the most simple site you could imagine. I went there today – clicked a few pages – BANG – got that "This account is using too much CPU/Memory". Give me a break! I've let them know they should move off them.

7 | Tracey

January 23rd, 2008 at 5:54 pm

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If you have problems with this one, you can try Lunar Pages. http://www.lunarpages.com/id/higabytecom

Yes it's an affiliate link, but I use them myself for several websites and love them. I've used them for almost a year now with absolutely no problems. They have some great plans too!

I hope you can get your money back from HostICan. I hate when business publish a "guarantee" and then don't stand behind it!

Good luck!

8 | mlankton

February 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm

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I think only certain of their boxes are having the excessive cpu/ram issue. I've been with them since August, and while my site's growth won't allow me to stay with them (time for dedicated), they were fine for me to date.

My friend on Blue Host gets shut down daily for cpu/ram overusage, so his experience with shared hosting has been a lot worse than mine.

The bottom line of this argument is, it's $7/month and you are sharing that box with 600+ domains. What do you expect for that price?

9 | Jennifer

February 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm

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I think they could be more upfront about their restriction on CPU memory usage. Also – I think their restriction changed from when I started with them to when I started seeing problems.

Ironically, I am now on Bluehost, and have had no problems so far.

But whatever the situation – whether my site needs more CPU now or not (nothing changed – traffic is still about the same, posts haven't increased that much) I should be allowed to cancel my plan if it's not working for me anymore – if for no other reason than their site SAYS SO. Anyone who goes with them needs to know that the wording on their site is misleading. Despite saying "if you're not satisfied you'll get you money back" – in actuality, they won't. My credit card is getting my money back for me. I NEVER would have signed up with them if I knew I would have this much trouble with them – and I think other people who are considering signing up with them need to know that they're stuck once they sign up.

10 | RLvB

February 5th, 2008 at 7:47 am

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@mlankton:
> I think only certain of their boxes are having the excessive cpu/ram issue.

Indeed, most of the sites affected appear to be on esc06.hostican.com and esc10.hostican.com.

> The bottom line of this argument is, it's $7/month and you are sharing
> that box with 600+ domains. What do you expect for that price?

I expect them to not take my site down for breaking the CPU restrictions when the logs say I didn't violate them. I also expect to be able to run a forum with 5-15 people on it when the support staff says I'm supposed to be able to run a forum with 100+ people on it, especially when I run software that the support staff recommends because, as they say, it's not very resource-intensive.
Out of my last 6 support tickets, 5 were ignored completely and 1 was answered only after 4 days. From a company that boasts 24/7 support, I expect something better than that.

11 | scriptygoddess » Blog Archive » Buyer Beware! Do not host with HostICan!

February 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

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[…] Rather than clean up this post – which was updated throughout my ordeal with them – I wanted to summarize the problem I had when I was hosted with HostICan. […]

12 | majorleaguefootall

February 19th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

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I have recently swapped to godaddy and their customer service is really great. I thought i had an issue on their end, it ended up being on mine and they were more than gracious about it. Godaddy has me as a customer.

13 | Gene Steinberg

February 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

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As a friend of HostICan, this needs to be addressed.

The attempt to refute the 30-day satisfaction guarantee is just semi-legal nit-picking.

What's more, HostICan's CPU and RAM restrictions have NOT changed, despite some claims to the contrary. They are, in fact, more generous than Bluehost.

And regardless of what one person claims here (and that claim was refuted on WHT several times), the logs should show when resources are abused. Also, the same person was getting 250 messages a day, which is something that isn't happening if only a handful of people are active on a forum. This sort of deceit is pathetic.

All this crap about someone who couldn't get dedicated service on a $7.95 shared account. Give me a break.

Gene

14 | Jennifer

February 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

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Gene – I and MANY OTHER people have had the same problem. I'm glad you're lucky enough not to have gone through this. Maybe some servers have more issues than others – All I can tell you is I was fine in the beginning and then things changed. You want to say you've had a different experience – fine – but don't come on my site and call me a liar.

As well – I never saw the logs – the times I called I was told it was a momentary spike and it shouldn't mean anything – but then in 2008 they just started taking the whole site down. That is simply unacceptable. Not after I specifically followed their instructions to make it better.

It's a give and take – they want to charge cheap hosting and give crappy service – that's fine – but the plain and simple fact is that I should be allowed to go to someone else if its not working for me. I've been on bluehost (also shared hosting) and everything has been fine. When this story started getting a bunch of diggs – I even called them to ask if I was having any CPU problems and they said they couldn't see ANY REASON why there would be a problem. So it's not a shared hosting problem in general – it's a HOSTICAN SHARED HOSTING problem. (And if Bluehosts CPU restrictions are tighter than HostICan – all the more reason for asking what happend on Hostican servers since everything has been fine since moving to bluehost)

You can call it semi-legal nit-picking. I call it deceptive advertising. Either way – this isn't a host you can trust.

15 | RLvB

February 27th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

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@Jennifer:
> You want to say you've had a different experience

Gene works for them, in case you weren't aware.

@Gene:
> Also, the same person was getting 250 messages a day, which is something
> that isn't happening if only a handful of people are active on a forum. This
> sort of deceit is pathetic.

I see no deceit. You said that 75-100 people online at any given time should be fine on vBulletin, and that phpBB is actually less resource-intensive. As you have witnessed for yourself, there were only 5-15 people online at any given time, and I was using a stable phpBB installation with no mods.

The 250-posts-a-day figure is completely irrelevant. What's relevant is the actual CPU load – which the logs confirmed was well below the stated limits.

Anyway, what do you suggest these 75-100 people you mentioned should do all day? You expect them all to post one single post and then leave for the rest of the day, or what?

16 | hosticansucks

February 29th, 2008 at 9:15 am

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> The attempt to refute the 30-day satisfaction guarantee is just semi-legal nit-picking.

I beg to differ. My site ran fine the first 30 days, but started getting errors all the time shortly after. Thus, the performance I had during the first 30 days was not indicative of the days afterward. That's what we call deception.

> And regardless of what one person claims here (and that claim was
> refuted on WHT several times), the logs should show when resources are
> abused.

Web Hosting Talk? Are you referring to the anti-Hostican thread that has become the 4th most-replied shared hosting thread in just under a month? You really think it would get that long unless there was strong evidence against hostican, and unless there are lots of people there sharing the same negative experience?

Here's the thread, if anyone's curious to see what it REALLY shows about hostican. You can also see that Hostican's representative – Captain Marvel – was banned from WHT (post #2).
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=667484

17 | IVA

March 27th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

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Shocking that companies can get away with behavior like this, I'm yet to find a good hosting company. all I can say is changeback. I hope you get your money back. Good Luck.

18 | Paul Adams - Savings4All.com

March 30th, 2008 at 9:59 am

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I have had similar problems with several hosting companies, and went into deep though about what I could do for a solution.

I ultimately set up my own equipment and offer hosting as a service now. For 5GB of diskspace, 20 GB Bandwidth, 2 SQL Databases, 20 Email Accounts and 2 Mailing Lists, we charge just $3.99/month, charged yearly.

Feel free to visit our site and let us know if you have any questions.

19 | kathy

May 17th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

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Hi,
18th May, 2008…All the Hostican Servers are down. If we make a call to
1-800-725-9170 they are not responding.Very poor customer care…Seems like a fly by night operator operating from a godown…I opemy website will be online soon..

20 | Anonymous

September 8th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

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Hostican are thieves .. I just sign up and pay them 45 $ to host a domain I also requested during sign up .. they keep ignoring my tickets and email .. they are stealing me .. if there is a way to press a charge against them tell me -.-.

21 | brian

February 6th, 2009 at 1:33 am

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I too have a simple website and is frequently displaying cpu overload messages..I have inquired about this and it seems their servers are overloaded and they are cheating customers by making false promises. The guy posting above as Gene Steinberg is in fact Dennis Motova, the operations manager of this stinking hosting company. Never ever host with Hostican…as it sucks…

22 | Jennifer

February 6th, 2009 at 8:36 am

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For anyone still following comments on this thread – FYI – I have been with Bluehost since leaving HostICan (so over a year now) and it's been awesome. I still hesitate offering an "official" endorsement – but I haven't ONCE had the kinds of DAILY problems I had with HostICan. Their support has been awesome. The uptime has been awesome. And this is on their cheap plan of something like $6/month for shared hosting. Sometimes you get what you pay for – and then sometimes you get a great deal – which is what I've gotten with Bluehost. I've read about some people that have had serious problems with Bluehost – so "Your mileage may vary"… (and which is why I won't do an "official" endorsement. I can just tell you what my experience with them has been).

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