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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10948</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran into a very similar thing while posting tables in a blog message -- turns out I had the "Convert Line Breaks" option turned on for Movable Type.  Bad idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into a very similar thing while posting tables in a blog message &#8212; turns out I had the &#8220;Convert Line Breaks&#8221; option turned on for Movable Type.  Bad idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Carey</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10949</link>
		<dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, it's quite bizarre.  I found the opposite to be true.  I really don't know why, but jamming the form tag between &#60;table&#62; and &#60;tr&#62; made the space disappear.  I also only got the space on IE.&#60;/tr&#62;&#60;/table&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, it&#8217;s quite bizarre.  I found the opposite to be true.  I really don&#8217;t know why, but jamming the form tag between &lt;table&gt; and &lt;tr&gt; made the space disappear.  I also only got the space on IE.&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Carey</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10950</link>
		<dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops. I meant between &#60;table&#62; and &#60;tr&#62;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops. I meant between &lt;table&gt; and &lt;tr&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Chungh</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10947</link>
		<dc:creator>Chungh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Tip!

Funny enough I had my own mysterious space saga just the other day. Was using tables to hold some images together like below, and couldn't for the life of me work out why there were spaces in between the images:

&#60;table width="300" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"&#62;
&#60;tr&#62;
&#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image.gif" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
&#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image.gif" width="150" height="33"&#62;
&#60;/td&#62;
&#60;/tr&#62;
&#60;tr&#62;
  &#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image.gif" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
  &#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image.gif" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
&#60;/tr&#62;
&#60;/table&#62;

If anyone falls for this trap, the trick is to keep all the &#60;td&#62;&#60;/td&#62; tags together, dont put them on a seperate line. like so

&#60;table width="300" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"&#62;
&#60;tr&#62;
&#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image.gif" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
&#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
&#60;/tr&#62;
&#60;tr&#62;
  &#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image.gif" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
  &#60;td&#62;&#60;img src="image" width="150" height="33"&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
&#60;/tr&#62;
&#60;/table&#62;

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Tip!</p>
<p>Funny enough I had my own mysterious space saga just the other day. Was using tables to hold some images together like below, and couldn&#8217;t for the life of me work out why there were spaces in between the images:</p>
<p>&lt;table width=&#8221;300&#8243; border=&#8221;0&#8243; cellspacing=&#8221;0&#8243; cellpadding=&#8221;0&#8243;&gt;<br />
&lt;tr&gt;<br />
&lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image.gif&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
&lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image.gif&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;<br />
&lt;/td&gt;<br />
&lt;/tr&gt;<br />
&lt;tr&gt;<br />
  &lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image.gif&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
  &lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image.gif&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
&lt;/tr&gt;<br />
&lt;/table&gt;</p>
<p>If anyone falls for this trap, the trick is to keep all the &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt; tags together, dont put them on a seperate line. like so</p>
<p>&lt;table width=&#8221;300&#8243; border=&#8221;0&#8243; cellspacing=&#8221;0&#8243; cellpadding=&#8221;0&#8243;&gt;<br />
&lt;tr&gt;<br />
&lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image.gif&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
&lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
&lt;/tr&gt;<br />
&lt;tr&gt;<br />
  &lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image.gif&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
  &lt;td&gt;&lt;img src=&#8221;image&#8221; width=&#8221;150&#8243; height=&#8221;33&#8243;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br />
&lt;/tr&gt;<br />
&lt;/table&gt;</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10946</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest culprit in my tenure is the dreaded form tag nestled somewhere between the table and td tags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest culprit in my tenure is the dreaded form tag nestled somewhere between the table and td tags.</p>
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		<title>By: umair</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10943</link>
		<dc:creator>umair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i hate tables too, yet still find myself having to use them...
try using valign="top" as an attribute to the &lt;td&gt; tags, that should get rid of the white space...&lt;/td&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i hate tables too, yet still find myself having to use them&#8230;<br />
try using valign=&#8221;top&#8221; as an attribute to the
<td> tags, that should get rid of the white space&#8230;</td>
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		<title>By: umair</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10944</link>
		<dc:creator>umair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, i meant to say &#60;td&#038;gt tags</description>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2004/01/28/mysterious-space-above-tables/#comment-10945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you have text outside a td tag (but still within table tags) - NOTHING  will get rid of that "mysterious space".... I'm not talking about space INSIDE the table - this would be space ABOVE the beginning of where the table is supposed to go - it's basically the browser having an error because of bad code...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you have text outside a td tag (but still within table tags) - NOTHING  will get rid of that &#8220;mysterious space&#8221;&#8230;. I&#8217;m not talking about space INSIDE the table - this would be space ABOVE the beginning of where the table is supposed to go - it&#8217;s basically the browser having an error because of bad code&#8230;</p>
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