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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... system/admin messages - I think I can do that too :) I also think there's some things I CAN modify in the headers using php -I'll have to look into WHAT specifically will make it look "less like spam"... Good suggestions! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; system/admin messages - I think I can do that too <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I also think there&#8217;s some things I CAN modify in the headers using php -I&#8217;ll have to look into WHAT specifically will make it look &#8220;less like spam&#8221;&#8230; Good suggestions! <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hyperliens à louer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyperliens à louer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Billets MT par courriel&lt;/strong&gt;
Scripts: Using Dada/Mojo Mail to send MovableType Entries Nightly (or how to ditch Bloglet)...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<trackback /><strong>Billets MT par courriel</strong><br />
Scripts: Using Dada/Mojo Mail to send MovableType Entries Nightly (or how to ditch Bloglet)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand completely, my one concern comes with headers. Yes, while somebody could put "allow from" in their e-mail program, but that's assuming it actually gets to their email program. Hell, if 40% of normal email doesn't make it anywhere, imagine if it's spam/list-like (http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17300016). 

Just something to think about :-) But obviously a simple thing would be better, I just like to have more control, and the ability to send out a non-MT post to the list (like system maintenance upgrades, problems/list info, etc... .).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand completely, my one concern comes with headers. Yes, while somebody could put &#8220;allow from&#8221; in their e-mail program, but that&#8217;s assuming it actually gets to their email program. Hell, if 40% of normal email doesn&#8217;t make it anywhere, imagine if it&#8217;s spam/list-like (http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17300016). </p>
<p>Just something to think about <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> But obviously a simple thing would be better, I just like to have more control, and the ability to send out a non-MT post to the list (like system maintenance upgrades, problems/list info, etc&#8230; .).</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as you said - you had already been using Dada for other purposes. My script certainly wouldn't take the place of that. I'm just thinking that if someone ONLY wanted to replace bloglet - a "simple enough" script could be written.

With bloglet I can't control who subscribes, unsubscribes, if they actually get it or not, or if it gets sent to their spam box, etc. and that's fine (they can just add the "from" address for the emails to their "allowed" list). My biggest problem with bloglet is that it doesn't seem to be working! I don't always get my bloglet updates - for reasons I'm not aware of - because it resides somewhere else. (I'm a control freak and like to run any scripts I rely on, on MY server. Probably my biggest reason for not getting on the "blogrolling" bandwagon - as much as I think that's a cool program)

In any case, my script would send out the emails, allow people to subscribe/unsubscribe (unsubscribes can be "permanently set" so that you can't be RE-subscribed too easily (ie. malicously) - kind of serving as a "blacklist"). I don't think it would be too difficult to make either of those steps require a "confirmation" (ie. you subscribe - but before you start getting an email every day - you get ONE email you need to confirm you received by clicking a link. If you don't confirm you received the email after a few days - your email is removed from the database. List backup - can be done backing up your database... Customizing subscribe page, emails, admin interface, etc. - yeah, I think so.

The other features like hosting a discussion, archiving sent emails, etc. - that's WAY more than bloglet does. So, THIS script wouldn't be replacing THAT - but it would be good enough to replace BLOGLET. (Don't know if that makes sense) Who knows who would even use it, anyway - but it would be fun to write. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as you said - you had already been using Dada for other purposes. My script certainly wouldn&#8217;t take the place of that. I&#8217;m just thinking that if someone ONLY wanted to replace bloglet - a &#8220;simple enough&#8221; script could be written.</p>
<p>With bloglet I can&#8217;t control who subscribes, unsubscribes, if they actually get it or not, or if it gets sent to their spam box, etc. and that&#8217;s fine (they can just add the &#8220;from&#8221; address for the emails to their &#8220;allowed&#8221; list). My biggest problem with bloglet is that it doesn&#8217;t seem to be working! I don&#8217;t always get my bloglet updates - for reasons I&#8217;m not aware of - because it resides somewhere else. (I&#8217;m a control freak and like to run any scripts I rely on, on MY server. Probably my biggest reason for not getting on the &#8220;blogrolling&#8221; bandwagon - as much as I think that&#8217;s a cool program)</p>
<p>In any case, my script would send out the emails, allow people to subscribe/unsubscribe (unsubscribes can be &#8220;permanently set&#8221; so that you can&#8217;t be RE-subscribed too easily (ie. malicously) - kind of serving as a &#8220;blacklist&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it would be too difficult to make either of those steps require a &#8220;confirmation&#8221; (ie. you subscribe - but before you start getting an email every day - you get ONE email you need to confirm you received by clicking a link. If you don&#8217;t confirm you received the email after a few days - your email is removed from the database. List backup - can be done backing up your database&#8230; Customizing subscribe page, emails, admin interface, etc. - yeah, I think so.</p>
<p>The other features like hosting a discussion, archiving sent emails, etc. - that&#8217;s WAY more than bloglet does. So, THIS script wouldn&#8217;t be replacing THAT - but it would be good enough to replace BLOGLET. (Don&#8217;t know if that makes sense) Who knows who would even use it, anyway - but it would be fun to write. <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tie Dada into MT without using Beatitude? Or just to send nightly entries without Dada at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tie Dada into MT without using Beatitude? Or just to send nightly entries without Dada at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using php to send out the nightly emails. I'm sure dada is a good mail program - but if this is all you want to do with it - I have a PHP script floating around in my head that would do the same thing.

One part would actually send the emails - a second part would need to "manage" the email list... (unsubscribes, etc.)

Is there a major component I'm not aware of? (is this script (that's still floating in my head) ;0) simplifying it too much?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using php to send out the nightly emails. I&#8217;m sure dada is a good mail program - but if this is all you want to do with it - I have a PHP script floating around in my head that would do the same thing.</p>
<p>One part would actually send the emails - a second part would need to &#8220;manage&#8221; the email list&#8230; (unsubscribes, etc.)</p>
<p>Is there a major component I&#8217;m not aware of? (is this script (that&#8217;s still floating in my head) ;0) simplifying it too much?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, can the script handles bounces? How about error/usage logging? SMTP sending and batches so you don't piss off your Web host (with confirmations sent to you so you know it was sent)? Can you host a discussion list as well as a announcement list? Is it tied ONLY to MT or can you send a standard email over it? Can it Archive sent messages? Does it have a nice web-based admin? List backup? Prevention from subscribing/unsubscribing other people? Can Customizable headers so you can get past over-zelous spam filters? Can you blacklist people? Can you easily customize the un-sub, sub, etc... e-mails and templates?

Granted, you don't need all that stuff for a simple MT notification list, but it's nice to know it's there if I do, and that's my primary reason for this. I'm sure you could do something simplier that would probably work, but with stats lately that show how many problems there are with legitimate email getting filtered as spam, I'd want something that does it all right, especially as I get more and more subscribers.

Just my two cents :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, can the script handles bounces? How about error/usage logging? SMTP sending and batches so you don&#8217;t piss off your Web host (with confirmations sent to you so you know it was sent)? Can you host a discussion list as well as a announcement list? Is it tied ONLY to MT or can you send a standard email over it? Can it Archive sent messages? Does it have a nice web-based admin? List backup? Prevention from subscribing/unsubscribing other people? Can Customizable headers so you can get past over-zelous spam filters? Can you blacklist people? Can you easily customize the un-sub, sub, etc&#8230; e-mails and templates?</p>
<p>Granted, you don&#8217;t need all that stuff for a simple MT notification list, but it&#8217;s nice to know it&#8217;s there if I do, and that&#8217;s my primary reason for this. I&#8217;m sure you could do something simplier that would probably work, but with stats lately that show how many problems there are with legitimate email getting filtered as spam, I&#8217;d want something that does it all right, especially as I get more and more subscribers.</p>
<p>Just my two cents <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an FYI: If I ever update anything re: this, it'll be posted over on my site at: http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/12/23/using_dadamojo_mail_to_send_movabletype_entries_nightly_or_how_to_ditch_bloglet.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI: If I ever update anything re: this, it&#8217;ll be posted over on my site at: <a href="http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/12/23/using_dadamojo_mail_to_send_movabletype_entries_nightly_or_how_to_ditch_bloglet.php" rel="nofollow">http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/12/23/using_dadamojo_mail_to_send_movabletype_entries_nightly_or_how_to_ditch_bloglet.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I've been thinking about this - (and not because I'm being a cheapskate) but I'm wondering if a simple php script couldn't be written to do this. Hmmm... might be fun for a little side project for me... :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;ve been thinking about this - (and not because I&#8217;m being a cheapskate) but I&#8217;m wondering if a simple php script couldn&#8217;t be written to do this. Hmmm&#8230; might be fun for a little side project for me&#8230; <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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