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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... system/admin messages - I think I can do that too :) I also think there&#039;s some things I CAN modify in the headers using php -I&#039;ll have to look into WHAT specifically will make it look &quot;less like spam&quot;... Good suggestions! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; system/admin messages &#8211; I think I can do that too <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I also think there&#039;s some things I CAN modify in the headers using php -I&#039;ll have to look into WHAT specifically will make it look &#034;less like spam&#034;&#8230; Good suggestions! <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hyperliens à louer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyperliens à louer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Billets MT par courriel&lt;/strong&gt;
Scripts: Using Dada/Mojo Mail to send MovableType Entries Nightly (or how to ditch Bloglet)...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<trackback /><strong>Billets MT par courriel</strong><br />
Scripts: Using Dada/Mojo Mail to send MovableType Entries Nightly (or how to ditch Bloglet)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand completely, my one concern comes with headers. Yes, while somebody could put &quot;allow from&quot; in their e-mail program, but that&#039;s assuming it actually gets to their email program. Hell, if 40% of normal email doesn&#039;t make it anywhere, imagine if it&#039;s spam/list-like (http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17300016). 

Just something to think about :-) But obviously a simple thing would be better, I just like to have more control, and the ability to send out a non-MT post to the list (like system maintenance upgrades, problems/list info, etc... .).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand completely, my one concern comes with headers. Yes, while somebody could put &#034;allow from&#034; in their e-mail program, but that&#039;s assuming it actually gets to their email program. Hell, if 40% of normal email doesn&#039;t make it anywhere, imagine if it&#039;s spam/list-like (<a href="http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17300016" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17300016</a>). </p>
<p>Just something to think about <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But obviously a simple thing would be better, I just like to have more control, and the ability to send out a non-MT post to the list (like system maintenance upgrades, problems/list info, etc&#8230; .).</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as you said - you had already been using Dada for other purposes. My script certainly wouldn&#039;t take the place of that. I&#039;m just thinking that if someone ONLY wanted to replace bloglet - a &quot;simple enough&quot; script could be written.

With bloglet I can&#039;t control who subscribes, unsubscribes, if they actually get it or not, or if it gets sent to their spam box, etc. and that&#039;s fine (they can just add the &quot;from&quot; address for the emails to their &quot;allowed&quot; list). My biggest problem with bloglet is that it doesn&#039;t seem to be working! I don&#039;t always get my bloglet updates - for reasons I&#039;m not aware of - because it resides somewhere else. (I&#039;m a control freak and like to run any scripts I rely on, on MY server. Probably my biggest reason for not getting on the &quot;blogrolling&quot; bandwagon - as much as I think that&#039;s a cool program)

In any case, my script would send out the emails, allow people to subscribe/unsubscribe (unsubscribes can be &quot;permanently set&quot; so that you can&#039;t be RE-subscribed too easily (ie. malicously) - kind of serving as a &quot;blacklist&quot;). I don&#039;t think it would be too difficult to make either of those steps require a &quot;confirmation&quot; (ie. you subscribe - but before you start getting an email every day - you get ONE email you need to confirm you received by clicking a link. If you don&#039;t confirm you received the email after a few days - your email is removed from the database. List backup - can be done backing up your database... Customizing subscribe page, emails, admin interface, etc. - yeah, I think so.

The other features like hosting a discussion, archiving sent emails, etc. - that&#039;s WAY more than bloglet does. So, THIS script wouldn&#039;t be replacing THAT - but it would be good enough to replace BLOGLET. (Don&#039;t know if that makes sense) Who knows who would even use it, anyway - but it would be fun to write. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as you said &#8211; you had already been using Dada for other purposes. My script certainly wouldn&#039;t take the place of that. I&#039;m just thinking that if someone ONLY wanted to replace bloglet &#8211; a &#034;simple enough&#034; script could be written.</p>
<p>With bloglet I can&#039;t control who subscribes, unsubscribes, if they actually get it or not, or if it gets sent to their spam box, etc. and that&#039;s fine (they can just add the &#034;from&#034; address for the emails to their &#034;allowed&#034; list). My biggest problem with bloglet is that it doesn&#039;t seem to be working! I don&#039;t always get my bloglet updates &#8211; for reasons I&#039;m not aware of &#8211; because it resides somewhere else. (I&#039;m a control freak and like to run any scripts I rely on, on MY server. Probably my biggest reason for not getting on the &#034;blogrolling&#034; bandwagon &#8211; as much as I think that&#039;s a cool program)</p>
<p>In any case, my script would send out the emails, allow people to subscribe/unsubscribe (unsubscribes can be &#034;permanently set&#034; so that you can&#039;t be RE-subscribed too easily (ie. malicously) &#8211; kind of serving as a &#034;blacklist&#034;). I don&#039;t think it would be too difficult to make either of those steps require a &#034;confirmation&#034; (ie. you subscribe &#8211; but before you start getting an email every day &#8211; you get ONE email you need to confirm you received by clicking a link. If you don&#039;t confirm you received the email after a few days &#8211; your email is removed from the database. List backup &#8211; can be done backing up your database&#8230; Customizing subscribe page, emails, admin interface, etc. &#8211; yeah, I think so.</p>
<p>The other features like hosting a discussion, archiving sent emails, etc. &#8211; that&#039;s WAY more than bloglet does. So, THIS script wouldn&#039;t be replacing THAT &#8211; but it would be good enough to replace BLOGLET. (Don&#039;t know if that makes sense) Who knows who would even use it, anyway &#8211; but it would be fun to write. <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tie Dada into MT without using Beatitude? Or just to send nightly entries without Dada at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tie Dada into MT without using Beatitude? Or just to send nightly entries without Dada at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using php to send out the nightly emails. I&#039;m sure dada is a good mail program - but if this is all you want to do with it - I have a PHP script floating around in my head that would do the same thing.

One part would actually send the emails - a second part would need to &quot;manage&quot; the email list... (unsubscribes, etc.)

Is there a major component I&#039;m not aware of? (is this script (that&#039;s still floating in my head) ;0) simplifying it too much?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using php to send out the nightly emails. I&#039;m sure dada is a good mail program &#8211; but if this is all you want to do with it &#8211; I have a PHP script floating around in my head that would do the same thing.</p>
<p>One part would actually send the emails &#8211; a second part would need to &#034;manage&#034; the email list&#8230; (unsubscribes, etc.)</p>
<p>Is there a major component I&#039;m not aware of? (is this script (that&#039;s still floating in my head) ;0) simplifying it too much?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, can the script handles bounces? How about error/usage logging? SMTP sending and batches so you don&#039;t piss off your Web host (with confirmations sent to you so you know it was sent)? Can you host a discussion list as well as a announcement list? Is it tied ONLY to MT or can you send a standard email over it? Can it Archive sent messages? Does it have a nice web-based admin? List backup? Prevention from subscribing/unsubscribing other people? Can Customizable headers so you can get past over-zelous spam filters? Can you blacklist people? Can you easily customize the un-sub, sub, etc... e-mails and templates?

Granted, you don&#039;t need all that stuff for a simple MT notification list, but it&#039;s nice to know it&#039;s there if I do, and that&#039;s my primary reason for this. I&#039;m sure you could do something simplier that would probably work, but with stats lately that show how many problems there are with legitimate email getting filtered as spam, I&#039;d want something that does it all right, especially as I get more and more subscribers.

Just my two cents :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, can the script handles bounces? How about error/usage logging? SMTP sending and batches so you don&#039;t piss off your Web host (with confirmations sent to you so you know it was sent)? Can you host a discussion list as well as a announcement list? Is it tied ONLY to MT or can you send a standard email over it? Can it Archive sent messages? Does it have a nice web-based admin? List backup? Prevention from subscribing/unsubscribing other people? Can Customizable headers so you can get past over-zelous spam filters? Can you blacklist people? Can you easily customize the un-sub, sub, etc&#8230; e-mails and templates?</p>
<p>Granted, you don&#039;t need all that stuff for a simple MT notification list, but it&#039;s nice to know it&#039;s there if I do, and that&#039;s my primary reason for this. I&#039;m sure you could do something simplier that would probably work, but with stats lately that show how many problems there are with legitimate email getting filtered as spam, I&#039;d want something that does it all right, especially as I get more and more subscribers.</p>
<p>Just my two cents <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jake Ortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an FYI: If I ever update anything re: this, it&#039;ll be posted over on my site at: http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/12/23/using_dadamojo_mail_to_send_movabletype_entries_nightly_or_how_to_ditch_bloglet.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI: If I ever update anything re: this, it&#039;ll be posted over on my site at: <a href="http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/12/23/using_dadamojo_mail_to_send_movabletype_entries_nightly_or_how_to_ditch_bloglet.php" rel="nofollow">http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/12/23/using_dadamojo_mail_to_send_movabletype_entries_nightly_or_how_to_ditch_bloglet.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I&#039;ve been thinking about this - (and not because I&#039;m being a cheapskate) but I&#039;m wondering if a simple php script couldn&#039;t be written to do this. Hmmm... might be fun for a little side project for me... :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#039;ve been thinking about this &#8211; (and not because I&#039;m being a cheapskate) but I&#039;m wondering if a simple php script couldn&#039;t be written to do this. Hmmm&#8230; might be fun for a little side project for me&#8230; <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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