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		<title>By: Row</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7147</link>
		<dc:creator>Row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm hassling my ISP to install SpamAssassin. I don't even use my ISP address except for the very important stuff and I'm still getting spam.

I think if you used that masking code on the address and had it set to say something like 'email me', that should be fine, but the site Kristine linked to displays the address by default.

And this time round, I'm not having a catch-all. I think that will make a difference.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hassling my ISP to install SpamAssassin. I don&#8217;t even use my ISP address except for the very important stuff and I&#8217;m still getting spam.</p>
<p>I think if you used that masking code on the address and had it set to say something like &#8216;email me&#8217;, that should be fine, but the site Kristine linked to displays the address by default.</p>
<p>And this time round, I&#8217;m not having a catch-all. I think that will make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7146</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've taken a couple of different tactics on this.  One is to display email messages like this:  comments @ domesticat . net.

If a user can't figure THAT out, I'm not terribly sure I want to talk to them.... 

Really, though, I've had the most success with just creating spamdrop addresses.  My comments@domesticat.net address is a spamdrop, as is my domesticat@hotmail.com address.  I have other addresses at domesticat.net, and those are only given to humans.

My rule:  I only give my real address out to people whom I feel comfortable harassing.  Period.  It means that ONLY friends,  family, and the occasional 'net correspondent get my real address.  That, and some pretty stringent spam filters (I &lt;i&gt;worship&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://spamassassin.org/"&gt;SpamAssassin&lt;/a&gt;) take care of the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken a couple of different tactics on this.  One is to display email messages like this:  comments @ domesticat . net.</p>
<p>If a user can&#8217;t figure THAT out, I&#8217;m not terribly sure I want to talk to them&#8230;. </p>
<p>Really, though, I&#8217;ve had the most success with just creating spamdrop addresses.  My <a href="mailto:comments@domesticat.net">comments@domesticat.net</a> address is a spamdrop, as is my <a href="mailto:domesticat@hotmail.com">domesticat@hotmail.com</a> address.  I have other addresses at domesticat.net, and those are only given to humans.</p>
<p>My rule:  I only give my real address out to people whom I feel comfortable harassing.  Period.  It means that ONLY friends,  family, and the occasional &#8216;net correspondent get my real address.  That, and some pretty stringent spam filters (I <i>worship</i> <a href="http://spamassassin.org/">SpamAssassin</a>) take care of the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7145</link>
		<dc:creator>kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaile, thanks - I hadn't seen that one before :)

Row, the bad thing about that is that if you are making a page that you really want people to be able to contact you (ie, a business site), making it harder by not giving an address could be bad for business.  

Even thought google's cache still displays that address, I *think* the point was that bots are searching through the html code, and when it doesn't find the combination of @ and . that it is looking for, it doesn't really find the email address.  BUT, I'm really no expert on this, this is just what I've thought to be the case in the last months since I found these tools to mask the addresses :)  
What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaile, thanks - I hadn&#8217;t seen that one before <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Row, the bad thing about that is that if you are making a page that you really want people to be able to contact you (ie, a business site), making it harder by not giving an address could be bad for business.  </p>
<p>Even thought google&#8217;s cache still displays that address, I *think* the point was that bots are searching through the html code, and when it doesn&#8217;t find the combination of @ and . that it is looking for, it doesn&#8217;t really find the email address.  BUT, I&#8217;m really no expert on this, this is just what I&#8217;ve thought to be the case in the last months since I found these tools to mask the addresses <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Row</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7143</link>
		<dc:creator>Row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to be careful with that though. For instance, at my old site, I had my addy set up with ascii, but on the page it still displayed as the real address. And how did Google choose to cache it? Thanks a lot.

Now I write my address like &lt;b&gt;row at rowf dot net&lt;/b&gt;. I think people are clever enough to figure that out, and I don't think spambots pick up on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to be careful with that though. For instance, at my old site, I had my addy set up with ascii, but on the page it still displayed as the real address. And how did Google choose to cache it? Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>Now I write my address like <b>row at rowf dot net</b>. I think people are clever enough to figure that out, and I don&#8217;t think spambots pick up on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7144</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I used it I didn't use an e-mail address for the link text, I set that to something like "E-mail me" so that I didn't have that problem.  It's a good thing to note though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I used it I didn&#8217;t use an e-mail address for the link text, I set that to something like &#8220;E-mail me&#8221; so that I didn&#8217;t have that problem.  It&#8217;s a good thing to note though.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaile</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7142</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been using one of those programs for a long time, and rarely get much spam.

The one I've been using most recently is here: 

http://zamok.crans.org/~raffo/antispam/aem/

(always nice to have more than one link, in case one goes down, right)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using one of those programs for a long time, and rarely get much spam.</p>
<p>The one I&#8217;ve been using most recently is here: </p>
<p><a href="http://zamok.crans.org/~raffo/antispam/aem/" rel="nofollow">http://zamok.crans.org/~raffo/antispam/aem/</a></p>
<p>(always nice to have more than one link, in case one goes down, right)?</p>
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		<title>By: kristine</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7141</link>
		<dc:creator>kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;even though I already posted this in Christine's comments, I'm pasting it here for an alternative too!&lt;/i&gt;

The problem with their hivelogic email encoder is that it puts it in javascript. For the people surfing w/JS off, they won't see your email address, will then?
So here's my solution - the &lt;a href="http://alicorna.com/obfuscator.html" target="_blank"&gt;Email Obfuscator&lt;/a&gt; at Bonni's site. It does a similar thing but w/o the JS part :)  I'm trying to convert all the links over on my pages to this format because I get SO much spam!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>even though I already posted this in Christine&#8217;s comments, I&#8217;m pasting it here for an alternative too!</i></p>
<p>The problem with their hivelogic email encoder is that it puts it in javascript. For the people surfing w/JS off, they won&#8217;t see your email address, will then?<br />
So here&#8217;s my solution - the <a href="http://alicorna.com/obfuscator.html" target="_blank">Email Obfuscator</a> at Bonni&#8217;s site. It does a similar thing but w/o the JS part <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m trying to convert all the links over on my pages to this format because I get SO much spam!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Simply Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.scriptygoddess.com/archives/2002/05/24/stop-spam/#comment-7140</link>
		<dc:creator>Simply Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks girlie! :) I had one a few weeks ago, but I keep on getting "Viagara" kind of ads. Lucky me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks girlie! <img src='http://www.scriptygoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I had one a few weeks ago, but I keep on getting &#8220;Viagara&#8221; kind of ads. Lucky me!</p>
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